I received an MVP wave at 156g from the PDGA as part of my membership several years ago, but it has never consistently stayed in my bag because it was flippy. I have slowly been testing perimeter-weighted discs to see if I can start replacing discs in my bag from other manufacturers that do not fly consistently across different wind conditions. Recently I picked up a Wave at 167g and played two rounds with it on open fairways to get a feel for its performance. This disc feels good in the hand and has a long slight turn and predictable fade. I have not thrown it hard enough to flip it over yet, but I know that I will be able to put more torque on it to get more turn and distance on it. It has already found a place in my bag.