This disc for some reason flows out of my hand and just hits the distance for me always over 300ft on my drives which is great for me! Only problem is I’ve bought 5 now and have lost 4 due to water or a miracle tree shot that gets suspended up in a branch 40-50ft up! Just got this bad boy and threw it today and on the 9th hole I had grip lock and threw way nose up and it’s stuck up in a huge tree… my extender only goes 25 foot and I tried taping poles together but it’s too far up… this review turned into a sob story my bad I just really love these discs and this ESP Crank 170-72g was amazing in every way and it’s stuck like Chuck way up there! I threw baseballs at it for an hour to no avail… looks like I’ll be purchasing another few of these bad boys and hopefully not lose them in the future!