Disc was incredibly flippy out of the box, almost unusably so. For someone who throws a consistent 450, I was throwing rollers with this disc. I think the reason is that the disc had a puddle top, opposite of what I asked for in my order (medium dome if possible). The disc was on sale, which was nice, but it still came out to a $21 dollar total after a whopping $8 in shipping + tax. Not a fan of online disc shopping, i'll just go to my local shop next time. The Nuke was also completely clear, which im not upset with based on the fact that I didn't specify a color. But still, nobody wants a clear disc.